Posts Tagged ‘religion’

Carl Sagan with a model of the Viking lander
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…. the enterprise of knowledge is consistent surely with science; it should be with religion, and it is essential for the welfare of the human species.”

- Carl Sagan

In “The Varieties  of Scientific Experience: A Personal View of the Search For God” Sagan covers his thoughts on the relationship between religion and science and describes his personal search to understand the nature of the sacred in the vastness of the cosmos.

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in Pharyngula [Evolution, development, and random biological ejaculations from a godless liberal] PZ Myers writes about a recent press release from Princeton:
“Unfortunately, the puff piece writer and the scientists involved seem incapable of actually explaining what they found, which makes me extremely suspicious.
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Anyway, I’ll be looking for the paper. My bet would be that it says nothing like the claims made for it by the press release, or that it will be an embarrassing error of interpretation by the authors.:
The target of his disbelief was also discussed in a recent thread on friendfeed:
Geoff Schultz (friend of Louis Gray) posted a link
Princeton Team Challenges Darwin: Evolution Not Random?
3 hours ago – via Bookmarklet
I can’t really understand what their theory actually is, but I’m skeptical that it
presents a challenge to our understanding of the role of randomness is evolution.
Randomness is just supposed to describe some of the ways DNA changes over time,
not the way the organism works. – j1m
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I had asked Jonathan Eisen about this http://phylogenomics.blogspot…., who pointed me
to the discussion at Pharyngula http://scienceblogs.com/pharyn… The consensus appears
to be that it’s unsupported hype. – Ruchira S. Datta
This key sentence seems nonsensical to me: “The discovery answers an age-old
questionthat has puzzled biologists since the time of Darwin: How can organisms be
so exquisitely complex, if evolution is completely random.” Evolution is anything but
random. Mutation is random, but evolution is directed by differential fitness, which is
definitely not random.- Benjy Weinberger
Yeah, that’s the basic mistake as I understand it. – j1m
I would assume the creationism vs. evolution debate is not either/or. For those who
have some religion, it can be safely assumed that evolution could be directed -
essentiallyas a tool of creation. – Louis Gray
I suspect that PZ Meyers (in the second piece referenced by Ruchira) is correct in
saying; “The other problem that often occurs is that one of the investigators opens his
mouth and reveals that he is completely out of his depth, and that the team has absolutely
no conception of how evolution actually works. This time, there is no exception.” – You
The researchers should perhaps go have a look at some of Chilean biologists
Humberto Maturana & Francisco Varela (circa 1973) on Autopoiesis [structures,
based on an externalflow of molecules and energy, produce the components which,
in turn, continue to maintainthe organized bounded structure that gives rise to these components]. Nor is it any surprise that a viable system exhibits homeostasis. – You

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Paul Bloom writes in Slate Magazine

“Many Americans doubt the morality of atheists. According to a 2007 Gallup poll,1a majority of Americans say that they would not vote for an otherwise qualified atheist as president, meaning a nonbeliever would have a harder time getting elected than a Muslim, a homosexual, or a Jew. Many would go further and agree with conservative commentator Laura Schlessinger that morality requires a belief in God—otherwise, all we have is our selfish desires. In The Ten Commandments,2 she approvingly quotes Dostoyevsky: “Where there is no God, all is permitted.” The opposing view, held by a small minority of secularists, such as Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Sam Harris, and Christopher Hitchens, is that belief in God makes us worse. As Hitchens puts it, “Religion poisons everything.”3

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22
Jul

Occam’s Razor

   Posted by: dsoul    in In Extremis

http://www.irreligion.org/

http://www.irreligion.org/

Occam’s Razor

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7
Sep

Breadcrumbs for 2007-09-08

   Posted by: dsoul    in Breadcrumbs

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